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	<title>Comments on: Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</title>
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		<title>By: Motorcycle Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Motorcycle Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Apr 2007 16:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft just need a marketing strategy of differentiating between the free content and paid content.  They need to make the people playing feel like they are getting more even if they aren't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft just need a marketing strategy of differentiating between the free content and paid content.  They need to make the people playing feel like they are getting more even if they aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2115</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe this yo be the greatest issue with XBL. You pay a subscription fee for a reason. I'm pretty sure that the argument for paying a subscription has always been the content rich environment that you can't find on any other console. Well if you're still charging more on top of this how do you justify it? The developers are coming out and pointing the finger to Microsoft. It's on them now. When Microsoft is showing this type of business strategy so publicly who's to tell that this wont effect their exclusives? Again, the gaming community suffers from the internal politics of the  business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe this yo be the greatest issue with XBL. You pay a subscription fee for a reason. I&#8217;m pretty sure that the argument for paying a subscription has always been the content rich environment that you can&#8217;t find on any other console. Well if you&#8217;re still charging more on top of this how do you justify it? The developers are coming out and pointing the finger to Microsoft. It&#8217;s on them now. When Microsoft is showing this type of business strategy so publicly who&#8217;s to tell that this wont effect their exclusives? Again, the gaming community suffers from the internal politics of the  business.</p>
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		<title>By: Game Stooge &#187; Gears of War Maps Taking Halo Approach, Update Out Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Game Stooge &#187; Gears of War Maps Taking Halo Approach, Update Out Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 21:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] light of the controversy created when Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney and Mark Rein took a seat on the 1UP Yours podcast to vent [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2042</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 16:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, you're right - that was a bad example.  MS definitely wants a precedent set for game expansions because they want to skim their share of the profits.  (It does make one wonder why they don't have a "minimum price" for any content on XBox Live and then have the developer add a surcharge if they so choose or let the developer offer content for free if they take the hit by covering the minimum price for the consumer)

I'm just trying to say that there are other avenues for content distribution and if MS is made to understand this they'll be more willing to work with developers who want to release free content.  People will go out of their way to get new content for a game like Gears of War - that's why MS is so adamant about not making it free - so it would be the obvious choice as the first game of a new content distribution system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, you&#8217;re right - that was a bad example.  MS definitely wants a precedent set for game expansions because they want to skim their share of the profits.  (It does make one wonder why they don&#8217;t have a &#8220;minimum price&#8221; for any content on XBox Live and then have the developer add a surcharge if they so choose or let the developer offer content for free if they take the hit by covering the minimum price for the consumer)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m just trying to say that there are other avenues for content distribution and if MS is made to understand this they&#8217;ll be more willing to work with developers who want to release free content.  People will go out of their way to get new content for a game like Gears of War - that&#8217;s why MS is so adamant about not making it free - so it would be the obvious choice as the first game of a new content distribution system.</p>
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		<title>By: -Bastardizer- Video Gaming Blog Live from Panama » Blog Archive &#187; Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2035</link>
		<dc:creator>-Bastardizer- Video Gaming Blog Live from Panama » Blog Archive &#187; Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] process? Or something else entirely? To find out, 1up Yours contacted Epic founder Tim Sweeneyread more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; xmen fanfiction rogue baby Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; xmen fanfiction rogue baby Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:50:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Aggravated Gamers Podcast &#187; Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aggravated Gamers Podcast &#187; Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 13:27:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] process? Or something else entirely? To find out, 1up Yours contacted Epic founder Tim Sweeneyread more &#124; digg story   Share: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Devin Grimes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Grimes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Nice selective quoting of what Sweeney said so you could spin this as anti MS as possible"

Well, if you'd actually have listened to the whole podcast you'd know that's not really selective quoting.  Sweeney and Mark Reign kinda used the podcast to vent their frustrations towards Microsoft, and went beyond the Gears situation.  They mentioned how they might not make UT3 a GFW game unless they change some of their policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nice selective quoting of what Sweeney said so you could spin this as anti MS as possible&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, if you&#8217;d actually have listened to the whole podcast you&#8217;d know that&#8217;s not really selective quoting.  Sweeney and Mark Reign kinda used the podcast to vent their frustrations towards Microsoft, and went beyond the Gears situation.  They mentioned how they might not make UT3 a GFW game unless they change some of their policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat Mobil Content &#187; how does superman fly Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fat Mobil Content &#187; how does superman fly Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 07:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] else entirely? To find out, 1up Yours contacted Epic founder Tim Sweeney inflatable superman costumeread more &#124; digg [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mikal</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Mikal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"as if they need more money"

Umm . . . I would expect a site that covers video games would know that Xbox still is unprofitable for Microsoft. So yes, if they want to pursue avenues to make it profitable (that is after all why a business would enter this market correct) then yes you could say they need more money. 

I don't expect you would expect Walmart to sell upgrades on items you purchase at cost because "they don't need more money." Businesses are businesses and they are entitled to seek revenue. If you disagree thats fair but to suggest there is something wrong in trying to turn an unprofitable business profitable is ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;as if they need more money&#8221;</p>
<p>Umm . . . I would expect a site that covers video games would know that Xbox still is unprofitable for Microsoft. So yes, if they want to pursue avenues to make it profitable (that is after all why a business would enter this market correct) then yes you could say they need more money. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t expect you would expect Walmart to sell upgrades on items you purchase at cost because &#8220;they don&#8217;t need more money.&#8221; Businesses are businesses and they are entitled to seek revenue. If you disagree thats fair but to suggest there is something wrong in trying to turn an unprofitable business profitable is ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content - Microsoft forcing Epic to charge for new maps? at PCGamingnewz.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Epic&#8217;s Tim Sweeney On New Gears Content - Microsoft forcing Epic to charge for new maps? at PCGamingnewz.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 03:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Gears of War Realm - The Definitive Source for Gears of War</title>
		<link>http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/04/07/epics-tim-sweeney-on-new-gears-content/#comment-2003</link>
		<dc:creator>Gears of War Realm - The Definitive Source for Gears of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 02:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Cartoons Fans Lounge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cartoons Fans Lounge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Or something else entirely? To find out, 1up Yours contacted Epic founder Tim Sweeney hot X Menread more &#124; digg story   No Comments so far  Leave a comment   RSS feed for comments on this post. TrackBack [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2007 01:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom:
Disagree on why MS wants to do this.  If  MS wanted to charge XBL based on packet flows, there would be different tiers based on XBL usage.  

The real reason I believe MS wants to push the charge is precedent.  It's revenue opportunity that goes away if your top tier games are giving away content for 'free'.  The remainder of the 360 game catalog would have to follow suit.

I agree with Tim in that MS is missing the big picture on this one -- added value = less trade-ins = less used games = increased new game sales.  Unfortunately for us, the effect on added value and trade-ins is a statistical grey area which is why the pricing model for added value isn't going away anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom:<br />
Disagree on why MS wants to do this.  If  MS wanted to charge XBL based on packet flows, there would be different tiers based on XBL usage.  </p>
<p>The real reason I believe MS wants to push the charge is precedent.  It&#8217;s revenue opportunity that goes away if your top tier games are giving away content for &#8216;free&#8217;.  The remainder of the 360 game catalog would have to follow suit.</p>
<p>I agree with Tim in that MS is missing the big picture on this one &#8212; added value = less trade-ins = less used games = increased new game sales.  Unfortunately for us, the effect on added value and trade-ins is a statistical grey area which is why the pricing model for added value isn&#8217;t going away anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: ErneX</title>
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		<dc:creator>ErneX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What MS can't afford that these guys have to go out on public talking about stuff like this.

With a studio like Epic Games, they should literally let them do whatever they want with their game, releasing free content is good for the game and their fans, if the content improves the game that will keep people playing it on live and maybe make more people buy the game or even subscribe to xbox live gold. MS can keep selling themes and the other stuff they sell on the Marketplace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What MS can&#8217;t afford that these guys have to go out on public talking about stuff like this.</p>
<p>With a studio like Epic Games, they should literally let them do whatever they want with their game, releasing free content is good for the game and their fans, if the content improves the game that will keep people playing it on live and maybe make more people buy the game or even subscribe to xbox live gold. MS can keep selling themes and the other stuff they sell on the Marketplace.</p>
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