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		<title>By: tekno haber</title>
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		<dc:creator>tekno haber</dc:creator>
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		<description>Good for Howard Stern.</description>
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		<title>By: Loko Pokon &#187; Howard Stern Bashes Dr. Phil and Video Game/Virginia Tech Connection</title>
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		<title>By: EghtySx</title>
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		<dc:creator>EghtySx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blaming video games and hollywood is just easier than taking real meassures, like you know, gun control!

The point is we need gun control, and LOTS of it. The US has the most gun related homicides bar none.


 Gun ownership can stop campus killings. Guns were prohibited at Virginia
Tech. By administration policy, even those with a state-issued concealed carry
permit could not have guns on campus.

That policy didn't keep the Virginia Tech killer from bringing guns on campus.
But it did keep law-abiding gun owners from having their guns nearby, to
possibly stop the tragedy. Syndicated columnist Jacob Sullum points out:

"In shootings at other schools, armed students or employees have restrained
gunmen, possibly preventing additional murders. Four years ago at Appalachian
Law School in Grundy, Va., a man who had killed the dean, a professor and a
student was subdued by two students who ran to their cars and grabbed their
guns. In 1997 an assistant principal at a public high school in Pearl, Miss.,
likewise retrieved a handgun from his car and used it to apprehend a student
who had killed three people."

And Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America notes: "All the school shootings that
have ended abruptly in the last ten years were stopped because a law-abiding
citizen -- a potential victim -- had a gun."

* Gun ownership prevents mass killings. In a 1999 paper, economists John Lott
and William Landes examined all the multiple-victim public shootings in the
United States from 1977 to 1999. They found that "when states passed right-to-
carry laws, these attacks fell by 60 percent. Deaths and injuries from multiple-victim public shootings fell on average by 78 percent."

* Gun ownership prevents crime. A landmark 1996 national study by John Lott and David Mustard found that violent crime fell dramatically in those states that made it legal to carry concealed firearms.

Their study found that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their
rate of murder by 8.5 percent, rape by 5 percent, aggravated assault by 7
percent and robbery by 3 percent. An example is Florida, where, in the fifteen
years following the passage of a concealed carry law in 1987, the homicide rate fell 52 percent.

* Every day, Americans successfully use guns to protect themselves from crime --
more than 2 million times a year, according to a 1993 study by criminologist Gary Kleck. Most of these uses are non-violent; merely showing a weapon sends the criminal fleeing.

* Gun control *increases* crime and violence. The Lott and Mustard study cited above extrapolates that, if those states not having concealed carry laws had adopted such laws, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and over 11,000 robberies would have been avoided -- yearly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blaming video games and hollywood is just easier than taking real meassures, like you know, gun control!</p>
<p>The point is we need gun control, and LOTS of it. The US has the most gun related homicides bar none.</p>
<p> Gun ownership can stop campus killings. Guns were prohibited at Virginia<br />
Tech. By administration policy, even those with a state-issued concealed carry<br />
permit could not have guns on campus.</p>
<p>That policy didn&#8217;t keep the Virginia Tech killer from bringing guns on campus.<br />
But it did keep law-abiding gun owners from having their guns nearby, to<br />
possibly stop the tragedy. Syndicated columnist Jacob Sullum points out:</p>
<p>&#8220;In shootings at other schools, armed students or employees have restrained<br />
gunmen, possibly preventing additional murders. Four years ago at Appalachian<br />
Law School in Grundy, Va., a man who had killed the dean, a professor and a<br />
student was subdued by two students who ran to their cars and grabbed their<br />
guns. In 1997 an assistant principal at a public high school in Pearl, Miss.,<br />
likewise retrieved a handgun from his car and used it to apprehend a student<br />
who had killed three people.&#8221;</p>
<p>And Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America notes: &#8220;All the school shootings that<br />
have ended abruptly in the last ten years were stopped because a law-abiding<br />
citizen &#8212; a potential victim &#8212; had a gun.&#8221;</p>
<p>* Gun ownership prevents mass killings. In a 1999 paper, economists John Lott<br />
and William Landes examined all the multiple-victim public shootings in the<br />
United States from 1977 to 1999. They found that &#8220;when states passed right-to-<br />
carry laws, these attacks fell by 60 percent. Deaths and injuries from multiple-victim public shootings fell on average by 78 percent.&#8221;</p>
<p>* Gun ownership prevents crime. A landmark 1996 national study by John Lott and David Mustard found that violent crime fell dramatically in those states that made it legal to carry concealed firearms.</p>
<p>Their study found that states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their<br />
rate of murder by 8.5 percent, rape by 5 percent, aggravated assault by 7<br />
percent and robbery by 3 percent. An example is Florida, where, in the fifteen<br />
years following the passage of a concealed carry law in 1987, the homicide rate fell 52 percent.</p>
<p>* Every day, Americans successfully use guns to protect themselves from crime &#8211;<br />
more than 2 million times a year, according to a 1993 study by criminologist Gary Kleck. Most of these uses are non-violent; merely showing a weapon sends the criminal fleeing.</p>
<p>* Gun control *increases* crime and violence. The Lott and Mustard study cited above extrapolates that, if those states not having concealed carry laws had adopted such laws, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and over 11,000 robberies would have been avoided &#8212; yearly.</p>
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		<title>By: Motorcycle Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Motorcycle Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Apr 2007 15:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is just another reason why howard stern is awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: T-roy</title>
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		<dc:creator>T-roy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 02:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he didn't have a gun he would have made a bomb. if he didn't have a bomb he would have sharpened a lawnmower blade and went all slingblade on everyone. It is hard to believe that people are so ignorant as to think that one thing caused his state of mind. But then again it had to be his diet, because all the school shooters liked pizza. Or it could be homework putting them over the edge they all had homework right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he didn&#8217;t have a gun he would have made a bomb. if he didn&#8217;t have a bomb he would have sharpened a lawnmower blade and went all slingblade on everyone. It is hard to believe that people are so ignorant as to think that one thing caused his state of mind. But then again it had to be his diet, because all the school shooters liked pizza. Or it could be homework putting them over the edge they all had homework right?</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a good thing nobody killed each other before video games, movies, and guns...</description>
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		<title>By: Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; xmen fanfiction Howard Stern Bashes Dr. Phil and Video Game/Virginia Tech Connection</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prime News Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; xmen fanfiction Howard Stern Bashes Dr. Phil and Video Game/Virginia Tech Connection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lucas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean
I think you're absolutely right.  People need to look at the root cause.  Did the shooter kill all these people because he had a gun?  He killed all these people because he was disturbed.  People like the shooter have their minds set on causing all sorts of destruction and will find a way to do it even if he can't get any guns.  If you outlaw something only the outlaws will have them.  If the police at VT would have been carrying weapons the amount of casualties would have been smaller.  Now I'm not saying lets give everyone a gun, but responsible people, like police, should be allowed to carry weapons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean<br />
I think you&#8217;re absolutely right.  People need to look at the root cause.  Did the shooter kill all these people because he had a gun?  He killed all these people because he was disturbed.  People like the shooter have their minds set on causing all sorts of destruction and will find a way to do it even if he can&#8217;t get any guns.  If you outlaw something only the outlaws will have them.  If the police at VT would have been carrying weapons the amount of casualties would have been smaller.  Now I&#8217;m not saying lets give everyone a gun, but responsible people, like police, should be allowed to carry weapons.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 02:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if tighter gun control is the answer.  For a crazed lunatic like him, he'll probably find another way, ie. homemade bombs, poison, etc.  The answer may be to better recognize disturbed people and take them more seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if tighter gun control is the answer.  For a crazed lunatic like him, he&#8217;ll probably find another way, ie. homemade bombs, poison, etc.  The answer may be to better recognize disturbed people and take them more seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Cartoons Fans Lounge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cartoons Fans Lounge</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: Howard Stern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Howard Stern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 00:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man There is no proof the video games cause violence. The Japanese are very peaceful have low crime and they have super violent games and anime. 

More power to Howard Stern for making it real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man There is no proof the video games cause violence. The Japanese are very peaceful have low crime and they have super violent games and anime. </p>
<p>More power to Howard Stern for making it real.</p>
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		<title>By: modeams</title>
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		<dc:creator>modeams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howard's show will always be misunderstood by mainstream media. The level of satire is often too hard to explain in a 30 second news report. But Howard's show is consistently the most thought provoking show in modern American culture.

It does push the level of taste, but Howard has consistently fought for gay and minority rights. He gives people who would otherwise be neglected by society, mentally and physically handicapped, a platform to be heard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howard&#8217;s show will always be misunderstood by mainstream media. The level of satire is often too hard to explain in a 30 second news report. But Howard&#8217;s show is consistently the most thought provoking show in modern American culture.</p>
<p>It does push the level of taste, but Howard has consistently fought for gay and minority rights. He gives people who would otherwise be neglected by society, mentally and physically handicapped, a platform to be heard.</p>
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		<title>By: jarek</title>
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		<dc:creator>jarek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have video games and movies influenced me?? Sure they have they made me beilive that evil villians have goates and enjoy evil laughter. Have they influenced me to go on a killing spree and kill 30 or so of my classmates??? hell no!!.
video games and movies do influence you a little they stimulate you imagination make you creative they dont turn you into a psychotic killer. How many people play grand theft auto?? yet you dont see people just randomly running around outside shooting pedestrians and stealing cars from everyone. Games and movies influence you but they dont turn you into a killer like the shooter at virgina tech. Dr. Phill get your facts straight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have video games and movies influenced me?? Sure they have they made me beilive that evil villians have goates and enjoy evil laughter. Have they influenced me to go on a killing spree and kill 30 or so of my classmates??? hell no!!.<br />
video games and movies do influence you a little they stimulate you imagination make you creative they dont turn you into a psychotic killer. How many people play grand theft auto?? yet you dont see people just randomly running around outside shooting pedestrians and stealing cars from everyone. Games and movies influence you but they dont turn you into a killer like the shooter at virgina tech. Dr. Phill get your facts straight.</p>
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		<title>By: arbee</title>
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		<dc:creator>arbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig,

"Of course 99% of people wont act out because of violent video games."

Please do not assume any figure here. There are millions and millions of gamers who play Grand Theft Auto alone and I doubt that more than a few would do something like this, surely not 1%.

"It’s funny how all of you people say that there is no tie at all. [..] It’s been proven that watching even a 30 second commercial can influence people."

But maybe there is no tie at all? It's one thing being influenced by a commercial about tampons and a totally different thing to kill 30 students because you are outraged with your girlfriend.

"Is it all because of video games? Of course not. But don’t bury your head and act like it has not one shred of influence. Remember, I’m not talking about normally adjusted people here."

People have been killing other people for many millennia, with or without a reason.  Yes, people do get influenced, but there are many different ways of getting influence too.

If this guy decided to kill a lot of people, it was hardly because he was playing games. He had decided to do so because his girlfriend, friends (etc) caused him pain, in which he had to respond in a brutal way. If he was not a video game player, would he then have chosen the diplomatic way?

The only way that the video games may have "influenced" him - in my opinion - could have been choice of weapons and such, as seen in video games. Now, a Beretta is still just as lethal as any other unknown type of guns.

I know you mean well with your post and part of me agrees with you, but there is a difference between influenced and INFLUENCED.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig,</p>
<p>&#8220;Of course 99% of people wont act out because of violent video games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Please do not assume any figure here. There are millions and millions of gamers who play Grand Theft Auto alone and I doubt that more than a few would do something like this, surely not 1%.</p>
<p>&#8220;It’s funny how all of you people say that there is no tie at all. [..] It’s been proven that watching even a 30 second commercial can influence people.&#8221;</p>
<p>But maybe there is no tie at all? It&#8217;s one thing being influenced by a commercial about tampons and a totally different thing to kill 30 students because you are outraged with your girlfriend.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it all because of video games? Of course not. But don’t bury your head and act like it has not one shred of influence. Remember, I’m not talking about normally adjusted people here.&#8221;</p>
<p>People have been killing other people for many millennia, with or without a reason.  Yes, people do get influenced, but there are many different ways of getting influence too.</p>
<p>If this guy decided to kill a lot of people, it was hardly because he was playing games. He had decided to do so because his girlfriend, friends (etc) caused him pain, in which he had to respond in a brutal way. If he was not a video game player, would he then have chosen the diplomatic way?</p>
<p>The only way that the video games may have &#8220;influenced&#8221; him - in my opinion - could have been choice of weapons and such, as seen in video games. Now, a Beretta is still just as lethal as any other unknown type of guns.</p>
<p>I know you mean well with your post and part of me agrees with you, but there is a difference between influenced and INFLUENCED.</p>
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